Reagan official warns America could be a police state within 1 year.
Shane August 22nd, 2007
In case you live under a rock (or you watch Fox News for your information) the Internets have been ABUZZ for months and months over the Executive orders that Bush has been creating that give him greater and greater controls over US citizens, and the country. For example, in the event of a catastrophe (which is defined loosely, this could be a hurricane like Katrina) Bush is given control of the entire country, congress, law enforcement, state governments, etc. Everything.
This video is a radio broadcast interview of Paul Craig Roberts, he was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration.
This is NOT some conspiracy theorist/some guy off the street. People laugh at the worries of some people that Bush is being given too much power, but this guy is saying the US is in danger of becoming a police state within one year. Republican Senator Rick Santorum recently stated that “all this American anti war ’sentimentalism’ will disappear after the next series of attacks we’re gonna experience”.
What. The. Hell. Is. That?
Please watch this video. This is an educated person with experience in politics warning Americans that the danger is not Al Queda, the danger is our government. He even quotes Pat Buchanon as ‘a long time, loyal Republican’ and states Buchanon is warning of another Gulf of Tonkin event to get us into Iran. If you don’t know, this is how we got into Vietnam. The public was told the Vietnamese shot at a patrol boat that the US had in international waters. In 2005, the NSA released the secret documents about the Gulf of Tonkin, and it was reported in the SanFransco Chronicle that:“The overwhelming body of reports, if used, would have told the story that no attack had happened,” he wrote. “So a conscious effort ensued to demonstrate that an attack occurred.”
Think about this. 5.4 Million people died in Vietnam. 67,000 Americans. Someone made “a conscious effort … to demonstrate that an attack occurred” when the reports showed that there was no attack. We went to war over a lie. 5.4 million people died. It AMAZES ME, we spend days and days lamenting the loss of 22 kids in Virginia, but when we find out over 5 million people died *because someone lied to get us into war*, it barely makes it into a newspaper, and is not major news???? What the HELL is wrong with us? The deaths of those kids is sad, and horrible, but lets prioritize here! We are on the cusp of a nuclear attack against a country that did nothing to us! Republicans are warning us that the government will lie to get us into war! Can it be any more obvious?
What amazes me is that if the government shut off everyone’s cable TV, there would be people marching in every town. Think about it. Am I wrong?
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Thanks for the information, this is a real eye opener.
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Personally, I tend to believe, based on my knowledge of history,
that such a ‘Gestapo’ type government could ever truly become entrenched in America. People have been saying stuff like this since
Madison was president.
That said, I’m very glad, relieved really, that there are still so many
lootable civilian gun shops in America. That’s what the Second Amendment was for, after all: Better safe than sorry. And I can guarantee right now that I plan to get a better idea of where such
businesses may be located in my vicinity.
Better safe than sorry.
USA is becoming a police state
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html
Moskaudancer, get a gun NOW and start learning to use it. It is harder than you think to hit a target from further away than point blank range. If you wait until soldiers are lining people up, I guarantee they will not hold their fire until they’re at mugging distance.
The quote “The constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper,” attributed to George Bush has never been corroborated and is generally considered to be completely made up by enemies of the current administration.
I wish the anti-Bush camp would stop using this quote because all it does is convince me they haven’t bothered with their research. There’s plenty of anti-Bush ammunition without resorting to lies.
John-
Hahaha
That last bit’s a good point
That said, I’ve used several different types of hunting rifles
before, and since most of them used the same kind of
click-stop sights on most modern sport and military weapons,
I think I’m pretty much good to go, excluding of course Incredible
Rambo Machines (automatics).
Never shot a pistol, though
Before even STARTING something like this, you might have asked yourself, “If I put this crap on a sign and stood by the highway, how many people would swerve to hit me?” (The answer, by the way, is the daily total of vehicles divided by the number of hours you stood there times 27, less multiple hits by a single vehicle.) That way, the roughly three thousand Americans left with a triple-digit IQ could use search engines without spending two hours wading through crap like this (assuming, of course, that we weren’t still out on the highway,
laughing maniacally as our tires ground you into tinfoil dust).
Dear Mr. Buttochs:
I thank you for your input. Actually, I agree with you completely.
It’s just fun sometimes to make-believe (just like the fellows
I responded to earlier were hopefully doing).
Just so you know, that was sarcasm. This isn’t.
Such a ‘police state’ would be impossible in a society like ours, where law enforcement is carried out by ordinary people, and, as I attempted to ironically point out in my last two posts, the vast majority of the population has access to firearms and explosives. I’ll only ever even begin to consider the possibility of an American police state if Bush (a conservative Texan) decides to outlaw all civilian firearms. Of course, that would ‘tip off’ everybody else, too.
I had this fear near the beginning of Bush’s 1st term, and I told many friends seven years ago, that if BushCo went one second past eight years, I would quit my government job w/ pension to join the underground. I stand by that committment.
There’s no way that’s going to happen, because even the secret service has a higher responsibility than protecting the president, one which all Americans share: Protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States of America. Hell, if I was USSS and knew he was gonna try something funny, I’D sure as hell pop his ass. lol
If the government cut off everyone’s cable TV, they might be better informed.
Seems paradoxical at first, but it would certainly get people out in the streets for some fun riots
go to website linked, type in JFK in search box and listen to short audio speech of a real president, then type CONSTITUTION in the same search box and scroll down to watch video of mike bednarik class on the constitution - there are more segments - then tell me you have rights in USA. Also, as far as police being ‘ordinary people’ as mentioned by commenter above, ever hear of Blackwater?
Yes, I have. It’s a PMC, not a ‘police’ agency in the sense of ‘police’
as being local cops who actually have the manpower to arrest every
’subversive’ who would undoubtedly be generated by such a scenario.
Also, it’s not like everyone who works in the military/government is
completely lacking in personal ethics. It’s just that those kinds of people (like myself) have found over the years that it’s often far easier
(and safer) to exercise one’s conscience in the background and out of
the limelight. Easier to ‘get things done’ that way (see earlier post on the US Secret Service).
Mr Buttochs, it seems about 6500 people stopped into this site for this article so far today. Maybe i should make a sign…?
maybe its you that is infesting the internet with useless comments, while the rest of us at least look at what could be *a possibility*
Personally, I think the chances of becoming a police state are rare, but the fact that a former reagan official is worried worries ME.
Actually, a few dissenting comments are far more ‘useful’ than dozens
of like-minded ones. I think the word you were looking for was ‘dumb’; in the strictest sense of the word, his comment was more ‘useful’ than his because it provided a dissenting opinion. And, let us not forget, ‘Dissent is patriotic’. We’ll never get anywhere if we all just keep telling each other we’re right. We have to discuss ramifications and possible solutions, as well.
I don’t doubt some government people have ethics and took an oath - I’m just waiting for a large enough group of them to openly take a stand - but it isn’t happening which makes me wonder about their collective moral fiber. The proof is in action - not bullshit.
Also Blackwater - yeah I know what they are too, but they are training police now, and were called in during Katrina - they had guns while citizens’ guns were confiscated.
I know it is sometimes better to work in the background - but if that is the method employed - it isn’t working - time to try something different.
DON’T EVER THINK AMERICA cannot become a police state! Bush and his cronies are following the same path the nazis used, and it worked very well for Hitler. Why do you think the NSA is spying on everyone? I’ll tell you why; so they can cow everyone into fearing them (plus gather dirt on their enemies)so everyone will stay in line. Also they are trying to get a national ID in place which tracks law-abiding citizens, NOT criminals, because criminals will not get a real ID, they will get a fake ID. As far as the citizens having guns to rise up against the gov’t, don’t make me laugh. They will either send Blackwater around house to house confiscating guns like they did after Katrina, or they will just order everyone to turn their guns in then come after each citizen individually or en masses and believe me, they have the REAL firepower. We’re NOT talking about 1776 and fighting with muskets! Do you know what a mini-gun is? Do yourself a favor and google it. They drive around in unmarked SUVS with these mini-guns that come up thru the roof of the SUV on a popup turret. THey can take out 500 people in about 20 seconds. Educate yourselves! You’re going to NEED IT.
It’s always harder to take a strong moral stand when you’re part of a crowd, so some of their cowardice can be chalked up to simple psychology, but, still… I agree, it’s a sad state of affairs, isn’t it?
“Money talks and bullshit walks” as I always say.
In the case of Katrina, citizens’ firearms were temporarily confiscated
to prevent them from killing each other to get enough food to survive, though that was the government’s fault, anyway.
By ‘working in the background’, I meant staying under cover long enough to get to a position in which one well-placed shot or explosive device will really make a difference-again, USSS.
nikolai:
Your interesting minigun fetish notwithstanding, there is a HUGE difference between Germany in 1933 and the US today: one, we don’t have a crippling, nationwide economic depression necessitating government intervention, and, FAR MORE IMPORTANTLY, Germans of the time were raised from birth to always acquiesce to authority WITHOUT QUESTION! The American psyche is totally different! Our national identity will simply not allow us to be rounded up like sheep!Once this ‘Nazi takeover’ begins, the citizenry will rise up and topple the offenders through sheer force of numbers. In spite of the fact that our military gets more $$$ than any other, the civilian population outnumbers the military one by more than 50-to-1.
In this type of conflict, it’s numbers that would make a difference.
That, and people like me who would pretend to go along with the ’system’ until in a position to do something about it. And believe you me, there are plenty of us.
Ever heard of a man named Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg?
Look him up on Wikipedia. That’s the kind of person I mean.
Rule of thumb is that it takes about %20 of the population to keep the others under control via snitching and the like.
Keep in mind Bush’s steady, though low, steady approval rating. These are your ‘watchers’.
Neo-nazi and other hate groups have been reported to be joining the military explicitly for the training. Graffiti announcing this fact appears in Iraq. They will be returning to media chants of “libruls lost the war for us”. Best selling books call dissenters traitors now. Motive and opportunity, built in.
PMC companies like Blackwater –incidently, run by a fundy– will do what they are paid to do, as in NOLA. Intel is also being outsourced. A shadow government with many tentacles is emerging as we speak.
Can’t happen here? BS.
So, if you’re so damn sure it’s possible and being planned right now, why haven’t you done anything substantial about it? This isn’t going to get mainstream press until someone does something radical. I recommend slashing all the tires in the Pentagon parking lot.
But, seriously, the fact that there hasn’t been any violent or destructive public demonstrations seems to me to indicate that the proponents of the ‘it’s going to happen for sure’ clan aren’t taking the issue any more seriously than my group, the ‘probably not, but I’ll be waiting’ clan.
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@moskaudancer, point taken. Everyone has their right to their opinion, and ‘dissent’ isn’t only applicable to the ‘fear the police state’ side.
We’ve had the same type of executive power grab in the UK but it’s all been done on the quiet. Civil liberties have been eroded and no one has spoken up about it.
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@moskaudancer:
“I’ll only ever even begin to consider the possibility of an American police state if Bush (a conservative Texan) decides to outlaw all civilian firearms. Of course, that would ‘tip off’ everybody else, too.”
It happened during Katrina:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/32966.html
Yes, we’ll meet again. Darlin’, I don’t know where and I don’t know when. But I KNOW we’ll meet again one of these good ole sunshiny days. Ya know, darlin’, all ya gotta do is just keep on smilin’ through you know just like you ALWAYS do, until the blue skies chase the dark clouds far, far, far away. I wantcha to do me a favor, please say “Hello” to all the folks that I know. Well, just tell ‘em it won’t be long. They’d be happy to know that when you saw me go, I was standin’ right here, singin’ this song.
Lobster:
See my earlier post regarding the Katrina situation.
Also, isn’t the name of the song ‘*Rock* Lobster’?
“What’s wrong wiht us,” IS the question. Is it we don’t care, stopped caring, are afraid? I put it on us, the American public. It’s out fault, for: voting for an idiot, then not impeaching him and his cronies when we discovered the lies and falsehoods. They should rot in jail. They are no better than common murderers.
“The police are ordinary people”?!? You have not been paying attention. Ever watch Cops there buddy. The Police are a heavily armed Paramilitary Organization. They use the same tactics and equipment in the “Wars on Drugs” that “their” troops use in Iraq. The reason why nothing is being done is because the Government Education system has been working for 80+ years to create ignorance and inability in our populace. Most Americans think our rights come FROM the Constitution and are bestowed upon us by the Government. The people who “know” are doing something. They are spreading the word and preparing themselves. Something major will happen and thats when we stand up. If we strike first the Fedgov will use THAT as the excuse to take action. Arm yourselves, educate yourselves, and pay attention. I used to think the Conspiracy theorists were nutjobs too. All Hypothetically Speaking of Course. Go USA!
Our Education system is CURRENTLY based on the Austrian model that was used from the late 19th Century on to creat a German populace that submits to authority without question. All of you doubters need to open your eyes. It is coming, it always has been, and every government will eventually do it. Look at the UK. Can’t even fook without being on camera, and they have a “Left Wing” government.
Actually, the police are ordinary people, and to try to convince anyone otherwise with ‘evidence’ from a fucking TV show is downright idiotic. By saying that all cops are paramilitary soldiers, you’re utilizing a form of logic not seen since the days of Jim Crow. Do you really believe that they’re all part of some massive (and due to it’s supposed scale, totally unconcealable) conspiracy? That’s an insult to every honest police officer who has ever wanted to serve his/her community.
That’s the problem with this country nowadays. Everyone, from ‘left-wing conspiracy nut’ to ‘right-wing fundamentalist neo-nazi’ thinks that everyone who’s not part of *their* group is somehow out to get them. This kind of paranoia is what started WWI and kept the Cold War going for forty years. It’s nothing more than a self-indulgent persecution fantasy.
cops are just ordinary people but… I do think that many, if not most cops become cops because they are the type of people who want respect. There was a show on years ago about classes given to police across the country saying that ‘when a person runs (car chase) it is natural that you get incensed ‘how *dare* they run from me”‘ They needed to think of this, because their instant, normal reaction is to get angry.
there was also a book written by a retired state trooper that said hte best way to get out of a ticket was to be very respectul, call him sir (or maam), be very nice. This is beause the author said that cops become cops because they want respect from people, they feel they deserve it because of their position (which they do, as long as they are good cops).
The problem is, if you use fear tactics on people (terror! Al Queda! War!) it also scares cops. They arent beating a demonstrator because they are hateful (but they could be) they are beating him because they feel that person is a threat to THEIR safety, in the long run.
The people who are in the most danger, if we are attacked somehow, are cops (how many died on 9/11)
So they are most likely to become afraid, like anyone would, and strike out at someone who thinks we should not be ‘tough on terror’
The proper public response to future manufactured “terrorist” attacks by BushCo should be the immediate posting of signs throughout every neighborhood in the USA which read: CHENEY DID IT. IMPEACH NOW!
Start making these signs immediately and be prepared to put them up as soon as an attack occurs (within 24 hours).
We will have a police state when we get a national police force. The TSA is in the initial stages of creating a national security force, but it will be a few more years before they can start throwing their weight around. Tyranny will eventually rear its head here in the USA, but not under this administration - give it time.
“So, if you’re so damn sure it’s possible and being planned right now, why haven’t you done anything substantial about it? This isn’t going to get mainstream press until someone does something radical. I recommend slashing all the tires in the Pentagon parking lot.”
Those are my earlier words, which as of yet have not responded to. I therefore submit to anyone on this page (or anywhere) who believes in the possibility (or surety) of an American ‘police state’ this question:
What are you doing now to prevent it? You say it’s happening as we speak, yet none of you are willing to directly reply to that question, because you’re not doing anything about it. Which of course means you’re either lying, and you don’t think it’s going to happen, or you’re complete fucking cowards who are unwilling to stand up for what you believe is right, what you believe is the truth.
Those planning actions aren’t so stupid as to post them in a public forum, moskaudancer. The tall grass is cut first.
*sighs in frustration*
It would at least be nice of them to reassure us that they’re not just blowing smoke, and it’s not like saying ‘I’m just waiting for the right time’ would tip of the hypothetical ‘Gestapo’ any more than simply being on this forum would… Just use a little common sense, and let us know you’re not all a bunch of blowhards. In these days of advanced public spying programs, *all* grass is tall grass.
Personally, I still recommend slashing tires at the Pentagon (or maybe at the local DMV).
so what would you propose? (violence is not an option)
imo things have to get worse. most people still watch tv, and think things are golden, other than iraq.
as peak oil really starts to grind our society down, people will start to take notice, imo.
will it take my post?
whitehouse (dot) gov/news/orders/
Since the July 17 Iraq EO, we have rendition clarification or obfuscation, the same Iraq policy applied to Lebanon, and an amendment to succession rules, 17 people deep, for when the shit hits the fan.
wwz nailed it as far as the incomprehensible minority of supporters.
As for moskaudancer, who really knows? There are arrests for very flimsy reasons that become somewhat known. How far can anyone get in the current environment without “disappearing”?
I had a conversation with a top Harvard psychiatrist regarding a presidential press conference where there was an obvious plant question about the avian bird flu. whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051004-1.html
He started crying as I was telling him about the president talking about using the military to quarantine some potential outbreak area. He went from thinking I was paranoid to admitting that he “knew” that we were in a police state after the 2000 election. It turns out that he bought his way out of South Africa when it WAS a police state and he didn’t know how to get his family out of this situation. How could he tell his own daughters? They believe the USA is the greatest country in the world. Many people do.
Many people will support anything the US does.
That’s the problem, people in this country and abroad seem to believe that the US is run by the president, when, in fact, it is *supposed* to be run by the rules set forth in the Constitution. We see this phenomenon even among supposedly educated commentators like O’Reilly and Gibson (though most would question to what extent they are indeed ‘educated’), and even more disturbingly, in a majority of so-called conservatives (actually authoritarians) in the American South.
I’am sitting on the fence on this one. Anything is possible but if what is said is really going on then shouldn’t the first step to preventing this possible disaster been to impeach Bush and Cheney. I just don’t understand why noting is being done. If we were to be turned into a police state then it wouldn’t matter that there were more people then the government personel since they carry machine guns that can take down 20 of us in the blink of an eye and then some. If we knew that this was happenign and could stop it then why are we not doing anything about it?
@Staimanovo:
Thank you!!
Finally someone else here seems to be asking what I thought was a really obvious question!
Also:
@Zorn:
You’re right, violence is definitely not an option at this point (kidding about the tire-slashing, BTW), but keep in mind that the Second Amendment was put into place EXPLICITLY to prevent such an event as a ‘police state takeover’, so, there are really two ways of looking at this:
a) My stance. Watch. Wait. Buy a gun & learn to use it if it’s prudent (by which I mean legal; can’t fight when you’re locked up). Be careful!
b) Just hang tight, because our Second Amendment, and our system of checks & balances will prevent anything that bad from happening.
Both of them are valid sides to take, I just prefer to err on the side of caution. Better safe than sorry.
It’s a bigger problem than the current administration. There is a place called DC:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/DCAgain.shtml
If Bush, Cheney, et al disappeared tomorrow, nothing would change. Until Americans start voting out significant numbers of Congressional incumbents we will get all the security we deserve.
How many replies above represent absolute, if not sleeze-bag, losers? Yes mamas, who are resigned to their therapy session perspective? Don’t most of them say they’ve lost, and they snivelingly whimper? At one time, the USA was #1. Is everyone equal yet ! (to the average loser of the world)? Rest not in your sanctimony, know it alls amongst us. Dig your hole deeper. It has been this way since the 1960’s. Without PC, how would anyone know what they dare to express, even anonymously? What if evolution is true? If it were, just how stupid might the circle of humanity around us be? Americans are mostly obese? No savings? Maaaamaaaaa!!!!!!!
Reading these comments, it seems like there are a lot of deluded Americans out there with the “it could never happen here” mentality. Paul Craig Roberts is not some idiot conspiracy theorist. I can see why people like him because apathetic, because when he tries to tell people the truth, a bunch of losers on message boards poo-poo him.
Since when have checks and balances, the constitution, civil rights or the President being our representative been at the forefront of this administration? How many more lives lost, lies told and basic constitutional rights be violated before we stand up as a nation and demand impeachment? You want to know why a Police State is a possibility? Because we are too lazy and ignorant as a nation to do a damn thing about it but bitch until it is too late. Two thirds of the country do not believe, support, trust or think that Bush should sit in that office anymore. But he’s there, isn’t he? Christ, we tried to impeach Clinton for a blow job. Now there is real cause for investigations, documented evidence, true concern and this asshole still sits in that chair, unchecked. This country will become whatever the ‘powers that be’ decide for us because we won’t stop it, hell, most of us won’t even notice until the cable does get shut off and a man in uniform shows up to confiscate your hunting rifle.
moscaudancer, the Katrina guns were confiscated permanently, people can’t get them back. Your reasoning smells of communism - the government knows better when to allow people to have guns? Watch NRA video - the Orleans residents can’t get their guns back. NRA won a court case against Nagin, then another court case to hold him in contempt, but he still does not want to return the guns to people. You sound too naive to be genuine.
Actually, I didn’t know the ban was permanent. That changes everything, because, yes, in that case, the government had every right to take guns out of the hands of angry, desperate, and vengeful people. Those weapons would simply have added to the pointless, preventable death incurred by government inaction in the first place. However, I am completely at a loss as to how he can possibly justify keeping them all out of the hands of citizens who may now need them to defend their newly rebuilt homes (aside from the fact that it’s just the right thing to do to give them back to their rightful owners now that the danger of vigilantism is past). Oh, and, before anyone says it’s illegal because of the Second Amendment, I’d like to clear up the nature of the Bill of Rights. When it was written, it was originally intended to be a restriction of the FEDERAL government’s powers, not state powers. It was actually written that way, too. The Second Amendment is the only one of the first ten that has not been extended by the Supreme Court to apply also to the state governments, mainly because of its vagueness as to what types of weapons people had the right to own. Thus, while it may not be *technically* illegal for Nagin to do this w/o having the city council vote on new weapon ordinances, it is morally reprehensible.
Also, try not to get into a moral argument with someone who doesn’t have the same information you do. When in doubt, ask, don’t crucify.
“That changes everything, because, yes, in that case, the government had every right to take guns out of the hands of angry, desperate, and vengeful people.”
Governments don’t have rights. People do. Governments are created by men, and granted privelges. The transfer of power goes from Individuals to Government, not the other way around.
The 2nd Amendment is very clear:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, *shall not be infringed*.
You may disagree with my assertion, but the reason the Founders wrote that was so that we could defend ourselves in situations like these. Those people had every right to be angry, desperate, and vengeful… that is the effect government has on people. Look at history.
guns wont help us anymore. go to projectcensored.org and look up mkultra - its declassified CIA documents about the testing and use of electromagnetic weapons. I remember there was one that worked when broadcast through radio waves over speakers…but i cant remember the effect - the actually said it was used in the first gulf war, they somehow used it when the mosques broadcast prayers.
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Police are ordinary people: Witness student tasing for asking a question. There’s nothing ordinary when a human being has a badge and a gun. They can actually be quite extraordinary.
Notice: Bush now has control of National Guard.
Remember: Kent State. A police state would involve the military, not just the cops. Both do as they’re told.
Don’t ever say it can’t happen here. Don’t EVER believe it can’t happen here. That’s too naive for anyone with a brain to think.
best be buying silver and or gold and lots of it..
come this time next year that might be the only way you are going to be able to buy food…
oh.. and get a gun…
you will need the protection